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jurtje
04-20-2004, 07:00 PM
Hey Guys,

I have a weird question:

I downloaded this program speedfan to check my different temp sensors, especially because I wanted to know my HD temps.
Anyway, htis program reads out some weeeeeiiiiiiiiird temps.
I know for example my processor is 50 degrees, my mobo 25, my video card 36 and that my fan is spanning at 3375 rpm.
Now take a look at speedfan's readouts:

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/jurtje-sf1.jpg

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/jurtje-sf2.jpg

what the hell do all these temps mean?

temp 1 & 4 I understand, hd 1 is my secondary drive on IDE.
but then I have a readout of 125 degrees :?
Something's cookin'!!!!!, but I don't know what!
And I wanted to know what the temp was om my 2 sata hd en raid-0, hope it's not the one reading -1 degrees....
Last weird thing, it says my cpu fan is spinning at 6750 rpm. I'll tell you, if its spinning so fast, my compu would hoover above the ground I think. If I look in the nvidia utility it reads (correctly) 3375 rpm; that's exactly half I notice now.

Anyway the main reason I got this program, is because somebody told me that if the hd's get too hot, their performance gets less. Is that true? what temp are we talking about?

suggestions please?

striker777
04-21-2004, 12:45 AM
Well I would say that the program you are using is trying to find as many sensors as possible on your motherboard even if they are not true temp/fan sensors. MB's only have so many temp/fan sensors so the ones that look like actual read outs are the ones to look at the others can be disregarded. I have never heard of a HDD actually having a temperature built in. I have always had to use a temperature probe to get a temp. Without a fan on a hdd they tend to get very hot, especially raid setups, and yes the hotter they get the shorter there lifespan. I'm not talking instant dead drive but a cooling solution wouldn't hurt. Use your computer for a bit and take the side panel off while it is still running and touch the hdd and it will either be cool, warm, hot, or very very hot. So carefull! lol

You also might want to do a search on google for a program called motherboard monitor or mbm for short.

MASSiVE
04-21-2004, 04:59 AM
imo theres only 2 ways to see the correct temps, 1. by looking in youre bios, 2. with a program that reads the temps from youre bios, ive used speedfan, and it is crap, doenst even show the correct temps, i have a cpu temp of 78° and mobo temp of 45° if i would believe speedfan....for real: 38°CPU and 18° mobo..... same thing with motherboard monitor, also gave me way to high temps, only thing i trust is ASUS Probe, not some third party POS app that doesnt even reads the temps from youre bios but just estimates the them... :roll:

fstroupe
04-21-2004, 06:36 AM
I tried using Speedfan to slow down a couple of fans...it is probably a good program, but too complicated for this old dumbass. The help file shows you how to customize which temps/fan speeds/voltages you want to display, but not that self explanatory.

I ended up just uninstalling it.

Get MBM at: http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ I assume that it shows my correct temps, it shows the exact same temps as ABITEQ, which supposedly is reading the same temps that the bios is.

Striker, HDD's with S.M.A.R.T. supposedly have temp sensors built in. My Hitachi Deskstars do. Now, whether the temps shown are accurate or not is a different story. :)

Beemer
04-21-2004, 08:34 AM
I like the ole digi doc 5+ It has 8 fan contolers (on or off) and 8 temperature probes. You can find out what is running hot or deadspots in your case using the sensors. It also helps to keep the computer as quiet as possible as you can turn off fans you dont really need. Mine was something like 30-40$, aside from taking up a 5 1/4 bay its pretty darn cool and its not like I was using that bay anyway. I also like the perdy bloo display. :wink:

KryoNexus
04-21-2004, 08:53 AM
I like the ole digi doc 5+ It has 8 fan contolers (on or off) and 8 temperature probes. You can find out what is running hot or deadspots in your case using the sensors. It also helps to keep the computer as quiet as possible as you can turn off fans you dont really need. Mine was something like 30-40$, aside from taking up a 5 1/4 bay its pretty darn cool and its not like I was using that bay anyway. I also like the perdy bloo display. :wink:

yeh, i'll second that. the digidoc still remains, imo, one of the best fan controllers / temp monitors.

striker777
04-22-2004, 02:02 AM
...Striker, HDD's with S.M.A.R.T. supposedly have temp sensors built in. My Hitachi Deskstars do. Now, whether the temps shown are accurate or not is a different story. :)

Yup, after some research it appears they do. Thanks for the info.

*goes to find out his HDD temps*

jurtje
04-22-2004, 09:38 AM
MBM up and running:

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/jurtje-mbm.jpg

Looks much more decent.
Anyway, about those HDD temps, some smart have and some don't, just depends on the model. However, the temps of raid disks you won't be able to read out. So here you see my secondary hard disk on an IDE channel.

So how about that digidoc, is that really helpful? Does it tun of the fnas itself, or you can do it manually? Don't you get a whole bunch of extra wires in your case?

Beemer
04-22-2004, 10:57 AM
Well, you can monitor any place in your case, you can set thresholds for the fans to come on. The Digi Doc 5+ will run the fans till the temp is - 5%. It has a force button to turn all fans on, or you can set them manually on/off. It gives rpm if you have an rpm cable. Yes it does create much more wires in your case, but that can be overcome with zip ties and such. The wires are fairly small, especially the temp sensors

Roadracer_4ever
05-09-2004, 06:14 AM
I to found Speedfan to be a useless program, other than to maybe allow slowing down of certain fans, although that's better done with the case side off, as it was reading my CPU fan on my old A7S333 board as my power supply fan, and slowing it down actually turned it off(would have been deadly if i wasn't paying attention) I personally say use the software that came with your pc, or buy a display panel/fan controller as well. I had the Ipanel deluxe for my old system, and still have it kicking around, but no use for it at the moment. May have to build an Asus based Nforce2 system to compare head to head with my Epox board just to find a home for it. :D

Enigmachine
03-08-2006, 09:38 AM
I've never had any trouble with speedfan, actually I use it on most of my machines. You do have to spend time configuring it correctly, but the speedfan web site contains definition files for a lot of mobos.

Also, you can set a minimum speed for the fan, to make sure it doesn't stop (most fans have a voltage point at which they stop, it's not something speedfan does by itself). Don't set the "automatically set fan speeds" checkbox without testing those stopping points with the software! That could be bad.

The latest version (4.28 ) contains a HDD analysis module which looks interesting - I found out one of my HD's is not doing too good. A lot of the stuff in Speedfan is guesswork because it tries to work with everything, but once you get it configured, it works ok. My machine goes really quiet when idle but screams like a t-rex when playing FEAR, but then I have 9 fans in there. Not having to even think about fan settings when starting a game is a must.

I checked the temp/RPM reported by Speedfan and ASUS motherboard monitor and didn't find any real discrepancy, but your mileage may vary. It really depends on your motherboard.

kcaverly
03-19-2006, 10:06 PM
For the HDD's with S.M.A.R.T. what is a good temp, medium or too high.
Mine is 42C, which seems about what I would guesstimate from putting my hand on it. Is that too hot?

Kevin