New DVD burner = no more high overclocks?

[playafly187]

i just installed a new dvd burner that i got for a wedding gift (thanks DatPhydeaux). its been way too long since i have tinkered inside the system. my first mistake was not checking the jumper pinning when installing the drive. ended up, i was trying to run two slave drives... lol

computer didnt like that much, refused to boot... took me a good hour or so to get that figured out and worked out. i have the epox 8rda board that has that stupid ass memory error so i have to pull my ram, install lower speed ram, restart, reset timings in bios, shut down, reinstall my good ram......... whew

so i finally got it working right. i go to set the pc back to overclocked settings (172 x 12.5) 1.75 v, 2.77 mem voltage.... it has been running these settings for over a year now...... i restart, get some goofy floppy drive error, then nothing...

my question is...... would this new dvd drive cause me to have lower overclocks?

[Roadracer_4ever]

There's a new BIOS out as of the 27th of July for that board as well as my 8RDA3+ that fixes the memory error. It also now lets my proc which, at stock speeds, only supports a 266 FSB run properly in async with my DDR333 ram. The problem I found was, you have to install the Magic Flash program to get it, as it isn't listed at the website. I was a bit leary of using a program that flashes the BIOS from within windows, so I disconnected from the net once I had it downloaded, and shut off all running programs(virus scan, firewall, Nvidia helper, etc) and then allowed it to flash. It actually worked pretty slick I must admit. Might cure some of the issues you're going thru there.

[siq]

Wow... I honestly have no clue. That's the quirkiest thing I've seen in a long time. Try pulling your burner back out and see if you can restore to your original overclock. If you run it fine when the dvdburner isn't in, I would have to say that's the only thing screwing it up.

[jurtje]

Have you reset your CMOS, probably your computer got messed up with the wrong jumpers and all that. I think that should do the trick.

I have never heard, seen or experienced that an optical drive prohibits you from overclocking, so it must something else.

Are you sure everything is connected correctly? I guess so, because it works on stock right?

If all that didn't work, try increasing your overclock to your original setting in little steps and see where it craps out.

Also, is your PCI locked? The only thing to could mess up your overclock, could be that the IDE is running out of spec and your DVD doesn't like that. Doubt it though.

Will be thinking about this and let you know when something occurs to me.

jur

[playafly187]

the pc works fine now, but i cant hit that 172 fbs that i was at before. i am at 150 currently, which will have to work for now because im tired of messing with it today... lol

ill look into flashing the bios soon. i actually have flashed em before, but its been well over a year now..

[silenze]

Also, is your PCI locked? The only thing to could mess up your overclock, could be that the IDE is running out of spec and your DVD doesn't like that. Doubt it though.


Possibility... I'm curious if he has one.. heh

[Beemer]

I dont see how a dvd burner would affect your ability to overclock by installing an IDE device....very wierd

[silenze]

IDE controller runs on the PCI bus, if it's running out of spec some drives may not like it, it may go from "stable" to "out of spec" from 150 to 172...

Playafly187: tried incrementing up from 150 ?

[playafly187]

Playafly187: tried incrementing up from 150 ?

not yet... im gonna try that soon though...

[playafly187]

There's a new BIOS out as of the 27th of July for that board as well as my 8RDA3+ that fixes the memory error. It also now lets my proc which, at stock speeds, only supports a 266 FSB run properly in async with my DDR333 ram. The problem I found was, you have to install the Magic Flash program to get it, as it isn't listed at the website. I was a bit leary of using a program that flashes the BIOS from within windows, so I disconnected from the net once I had it downloaded, and shut off all running programs(virus scan, firewall, Nvidia helper, etc) and then allowed it to flash. It actually worked pretty slick I must admit. Might cure some of the issues you're going thru there.

i checked the epox website and only saw a bios update from february... where did you get this update?

[Roadracer_4ever]

There's a new BIOS out as of the 27th of July for that board as well as my 8RDA3+ that fixes the memory error. It also now lets my proc which, at stock speeds, only supports a 266 FSB run properly in async with my DDR333 ram. The problem I found was, you have to install the Magic Flash program to get it, as it isn't listed at the website. I was a bit leary of using a program that flashes the BIOS from within windows, so I disconnected from the net once I had it downloaded, and shut off all running programs(virus scan, firewall, Nvidia helper, etc) and then allowed it to flash. It actually worked pretty slick I must admit. Might cure some of the issues you're going thru there.

i checked the epox website and only saw a bios update from february... where did you get this update?

Install the Mgic Flash utility that came with your motherboard, it's the only way to get the update. It seems that Epox has stopped posting them for manual d/l and install, and the only way to get the updates for the BIOS now are thru the utility program. Once installed, let it check for updated BIOS, download, and then unplug your pc from the net, disable your AV and firewall(not the XP one, but if you're running a Norton's firewall or other) and then let it install. It's all done from within the Windows environment. I was a bit leary of doing so, as I prefer the boot into DOS and do it manually myself way, but it works pretty slick, and I'm not as hesitant now.

[playafly187]

hrm, i have no clue where that install cd is for the Magic Flash... wonder if i could find it online somewhere...

[Roadracer_4ever]

hrm, i have no clue where that install cd is for the Magic Flash... wonder if i could find it online somewhere...

http://www.epox.com/USA/article.asp?ID=1715&showsupportlinks=YES

That's the latest version of it. Enjoy.

I also found on the Epox UK site, a page where the new BIOS' are available for manual download so you can flash it with AWDFLASH.

http://www.epox.org/ click to enter and there's a link for New BIOS on the main page, may have to scroll a bit to find your board, but it's there.

Odd they don't have it on the American site yet!?!?!?!?!?!?!?????

[Roadracer_4ever]

Curious if you tried the BIOS update yet? Also, are you running another cd-rom as well as the dvd burner? If so, did you remember to set one as master and one as slave? Might be holding you back there as an off chance...had a fellow having slow boot times and poor system performance in another forum who'd forgot to do so, and once that was corrected, it sped right up again.

[playafly187]

no, i actually havent tried the bios update yet. i just got back in town today. left on thursday to go to alabama.

as for the drives, yes i have another drive in the system too. when i was installing the dvd burner, i completely forgot to check the jumper on it, and ran into some probs before i realized the mistake...

[fstroupe]

You know, now that I think about it, I'm almost positive I read a post on another forum about the exact same problem. Been a few months, probably would never find it again. :cry:

[playafly187]

still havent had time to mess with it.... first time on the computer for more than an hour in prolly a week or so... :?