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Caj Darkmoon
10-10-2004, 01:23 PM
Sometime in the next 2 or 3 months I'll probably upgrade my motherboard and processor to a faster, more overclockable variant, seeing as how I'm not going to get a whole lot more out of my 2100. Here's the idea so far. I've heard a lot of good things about the mobile barton 2600, so I'm thinking that's what I'll go to. It's cheap, and I can clock it up to 3000+ speeds. I also will be going with (rather obviously) the nforce2 chipset. Here's the preliminary candidates:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-136-124&depa=1

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-401&DEPA=0

Now, off to read reviews.
leezard
10-10-2004, 01:45 PM
I'd go with the abit nf7-s mobo over the dfi
undergroundtech
10-10-2004, 02:06 PM
I've heard a lot of good things about the mobile barton 2600, so I'm thinking that's what I'll go to. It's cheap, and I can clock it up to 3000+ speeds.

I have my M-2600+ running @ 2.5Ghz, if/when I get some decent memory I should be able to hit 2.6 or maybe even 2.7

A 3200+ only runs 2.2Ghz. stock, I'm not even sure what 2.5Ghz is on AMD's speed scale. But ya, it will go a bit faster than 3000+ speeds
Caj Darkmoon
10-10-2004, 02:41 PM
I'd go with the abit nf7-s mobo over the dfi

Care to qualify that opinion?
fstroupe
10-10-2004, 03:09 PM
I'd go with the abit nf7-s mobo over the dfi

Care to qualify that opinion?

Well, for one, the NF7-S Ver 2 (as opposed to NF7-S2) is by far the most popular Socket A mobo. The stock BIOS is very mature, all bugs have been worked out, and is very overclocker friendly. If you are really into overclocking, there are numerous modded BIOS out there to play with.

That particular model you are looking at has capability for only 1 SATA Hdd, ok if you know for sure you will never want another.

The DFI Lanparty has also become a very popular overclocker. It comes with lots of goodies, like UV rounded cables, but at $127, is still too expensive.
leezard
10-10-2004, 03:33 PM
What he said ^^

I've used em both, the Abit board IMO is more of an enthusiast board than the DFI. It has TONS of OC'ing options and is very stable now that they got the initial bios problems out of the way. Before I burnt up my 1700 because of over voltage trying to push it further i had it running stable at 2.5Ghz on air cooling
Caj Darkmoon
10-10-2004, 04:34 PM
Ok, thanks.
SlipSand
10-10-2004, 05:04 PM
ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe Rev.2
Or DFI Lan-Party
Mainly because MCP sucks...MCP-T ownz. I have no problem with my ASUS and its 6.1? I think its 6.1. ASUS is a better trusted company and overall will be better in the long run. Great of OC'ing too. No problems OC'ing.
fstroupe
10-10-2004, 05:44 PM
I was stuck deciding between Asus and Abit when I got my NF7-S. I went with the Abit for two reasons...the reasons I gave above, and the fact that there were too many damn versions of the A7N8X at the time, and they discontinued the "A7N8X Deluxe" a couple of weeks before I was ready to buy. They also had just come out with the AN78X-E, and it was still pretty buggy.

Abit has now done the same thing offering several versions of the NF7-S, I assume to get rid of the obsolete parts in their stock, getting ready for Nforce3 or Nforce4. Too confusing.
Bio-Hazard
10-11-2004, 12:51 AM
Go with the Abit NF7-S............it's a better OC'er and more stable at higher FSB than the Asus. I have both boards right now and both are great at default speeds, but with all the same parts, the Abit board does much better on the higher (over 200 FSB) than my Asus. But as with any type of OC'ing, every board and every CPU OC's differently.
silenze
10-11-2004, 12:52 AM
I would recommend against wasting your money on a socket A platform, but hey, it's your money........
Caj Darkmoon
10-11-2004, 01:22 AM
I would recommend against wasting your money on a socket A platform, but hey, it's your money........

I could spend a lot more on an A64, is what your saying? First of all, I'm not a guy whos going to spend hundreds of dollars for top-o-the-line, its a waste, especially when I can get the same performance out of a socketA, and even more especially when its compatible with everything I have now, including my rather expensive Corsair DDR 3200
Caj Darkmoon
10-11-2004, 01:26 AM
Case in point:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-450&depa=0

The absoulutely cheapest A64 on the market. $136
silenze
10-11-2004, 01:29 AM
Heh...

Why are you taking offense? I'm just trying to help you in the long run..

But nevermind, you're quite obviously more knowledged and experienced on the subject than I......
Caj Darkmoon
10-11-2004, 01:33 AM
Heh...

Why are you taking offense? I'm just trying to help you in the long run..

But nevermind, you're quite obviously more knowledged and experienced on the subject than I......

You read too much into my words. :) That's always dangerous on the internet. I wasn't taking offense to what you said. Please, if you have more to say, feel free.

And I don't claim to be more knowledgeable than people who visit online forums about computers, because the people I'm more knowledgeable about computers than couldn't find an online forum about computers.
silenze
10-11-2004, 01:40 AM
I just don't like seeing people spend money on things they think will be great, to find out they should've spent that extra $20 to avoid the troubles.

The reason I suggest avoiding the socket A, is you'll need a good 2.5Ghz or higher to compete with newer platforms at all..

I do quite a lot of reading and comparing of hardware... (notice the tag atop my avatar.)
Caj Darkmoon
10-11-2004, 01:44 AM
I just don't like seeing people spend money on things they think will be great, to find out they should've spent that extra $20 to avoid the troubles.

The reason I suggest avoiding the socket A, is you'll need a good 2.5Ghz or higher to compete with newer platforms at all..

I do quite a lot of reading and comparing of hardware... (notice the tag under my avatar.)

I tend to form an opinion about people based on what they say and the knowledge they express about a subject. :) As both a webmaster of a fansite and a staffer on another, I know that a named position on the internet means little on its own. However, that does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that I don't think you know what your talking about, because you have given me no reason not to think that yet.

Honestly, point me towards some stuff, try to change my opinion. I welcome that, since I'm looking for the best bang/buck ratio.
silenze
10-11-2004, 01:57 AM
Funnily enough, there's a decent comparison in our 'Post your overclock' thread:

Alfonse's 2.5Ghz Barton: http://forums.ocia.net/viewtopic.php?p=5679#5679

My 2.3Ghz 64: http://forums.ocia.net/viewtopic.php?p=56#56

Shows what I mean when I say you'll need 2.5Ghz+ to compete with the newer platforms...
Caj Darkmoon
10-11-2004, 02:12 AM
Ok, by looking at those specs it appears that the performances are very similar, with both processors coming out on top in different tests. Would that be a wrong assumption?

I'm not trying to argue with you, just... well... get you to prove your point to the extent that it will change my mind. :)
silenze
10-11-2004, 02:19 AM
You're correct in your assumption... I'm not trying to change your mind, you want bang/buck, so you're on the right track with a mobile Barton and NForce2 based motherboard. (If I had to start over again and didn't have as much money to spend, I would be doing the same....)

I didn't prove my point? I said you'll need a good 2.5Ghz+ to compete with the newer platforms (not something Everyone is able to achieve, unfortunately), and you just saw proof.... :)